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I'm finally doing some travel and I really liked the input of some NS peeps last time I asked about the US, so I thought I'd ask for help again, just on flights and places to go.

 

So I'm going to Clevelend (Ohio) between the 27th and 31st of July and I'm thinking I should stay in the US for a month if I'm going to the trouble of getting there. FYI I'm going to this camp, my favourite 2 drummers are teaching so this is pretty huge for me.

 

I have some family in Cleveland, Pittsburgh and also a cousin in Utah (Salt lake city), not yet sure if I can stay with them, the one in Utah is the only one I really know.

 

Anyway I heard you can get cheaper flights if you buy them from America, and I also heard it's much cheaper to fly from state to state once you're there, so that opens up a whole range of possibilities if it's true. True?

 

From Cleveland, Niagra falls is 3 hours away, NYC is apparently 8 hours away. A flight to Cleveland makes a stop in LA, I wonder if I should go to LA a few days before I'm supposed to be in Cleveland, and just get a flight from there.

 

I was thinking a few days in LA (what do I do there?), fly up to Cleveland, do my 4 days there, then maybe a hire a car or catch a bus/train to Niagra and then NYC? What you guys think? Any attractions you could recommend?

 

I didn't plan this too far in advance so I'm having to sell some shit to make ends meet, so obviously I can't go big budget.

 

I realize this is pretty random but any help is good.

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I was thinking a few days in LA (what do I do there?)

 

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:lol:

 

In all seriousness though, if you have the time you should either start or end your trip with Hawaii via LA or LA via Hawaii using Hawaiian airlines.

Just get a flight to or from LA with Hawaiian airlines and the flight will automatically include a stop over in Hawaii that you can make as long or as short as you want (days even).

 

Hawaiian airlines flights are usually cheaper than others because their main goal is to funnel tourists into Hawaii, not make money on the seats.

 

If you have never been to Universal Studio's in LA, you should def check it out.

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we found that too, flying Hawaiian was shittins cheaper.

 

a 3 hour stop over in Hawaii (must admit the airport is dated lol) but on te way back we stayed a week there.

 

LA - universal studios - do it.

Disneyland - Anaheim

visit the beached, its strange to see the oil rigs in the ocean but they have huge beaches, Huntington beach is pretty long,

drive over the bridge they filmed gone in 60 seconds on. shits and giggles nothing more. long beach.

drive through Malibu, its nice up there,

goto the observatory overlooking LA,

on the way up, drive past Hollywood sign,

(you can get a day tour that will do most of this)

 

visit the chinaman theatre? if ya wanna,

go see a lakers game at the staples centre

 

there is a metric shit tonne of crap to do, just depends what tickles your fancy and how long your there for....

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Don't really have any cheap suggestions, but whatever. The oil rigs on the beach n0nac-S15 mentioned are fairly cool to see.

 

When I was last in LA I hired a Camaro and had some fun; smashed the canyons, blasted though Hollywood, ripped some skids and muscled my way through LA traffic. Great fun and I'd recommend it to anyone into cars. Mulholland Drive is the iconic canyon pass that all the petrolheads drive, just keep in mind that mistakes can potentially be fatal, as there are no real guard rails on the cliff face, loose dirt and stones on the inside shoulder can get kicked onto the road, and various animals live there including bears. If you plan to push it, first scout the pass first in both directions and you should only run it hard at night. A lot of the bends require you to drive on the right to get the necessary line, and you need the advanced warning of oncoming headlights, as I confirmed by narrowly missing a 240z runnning the pass in the opposite direction.

 

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If you're prepared to travel outside LA, then you really should head to Vegas and charter a flight through the Grand Canyon. It's quite amazing, and pictures do it no justice. In the same area as the heli pad for the Canyon Tours, there's a place called the Gun Store (www.thegunstorelasvegas.com) which although expensive, is fairly cool for an Aussie tourist.

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OH IF YOUR going to vegas there is lots of cool stuff to see and do to!

 

hit up exotics racing, go drive some exotics around a race track!

 

I recommend highly the 458 italia and mclaran mp4-12c ;)

the aventadoor shes a big girl but goes round the track nicely.

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A rather ruff question but how much do people spend on a trip to the United states of Americuh.

 

My assumption once you factor in Flights+Accom+Didney worl etc your looking at 6-8k?

 

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depends how much stuff you wanna do?

 

1200 return to Sydney/bisbane

+ internal flights

+ car higher and fuel

+$300 2 day pass to Disney land and California adventure land

+accommodation (Anaheim allow 100 a night for close to D.L. digs,) double or triple in LA city centre.

fuel is cheap over there.

the mrs and I spent about 20-25k, cant member!

but we stayed in all 5 star hotels (honey moon) and we were there for 6 weeks. including hotels car higher food etc etc.

we allowed $60 a day for food each.

you can do 8 grand for say 2 weeks if your money conscious!

 

you just need a bed to sleep in where you wont get stabbed in your sleep, so allow cheapest of $80 a night. in a fairly respectable part of town,

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I presume by 8k you mean 8k each?

Thats a whole lot of moneys.. $60 on food each wow.. I guess it was your money moon so you must of really been eating it up in some nicer places.

 

Thought America was all like cheap cheap cheap and here you are spending 500 clams a day!

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Prob should mention I'm not really a night club/pub/drinking person and I'm going it alone. That figure ($) is a bit scary!

 

I was also under the impression that everything is cheap. Although the exchange rate has come back down to earth :(

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Lol wtf, stuff is cheap there. Hotels however are not.

 

I went over there for my sister's wedding, so some of my accomodation and parts of the trip were split, along with some of the car hire. For the solo half of my trip I just got my own hotel rooms, hired my own cars and crashed at a friend's place in LA for a week. I covered his food and expenses whilst we were out, so I wasn't exactly freeloading.

 

Allowed around $5k for the trip all up, did a whole bunch of shit, went all sorts of places, hired cars, hired a GPS, bought a temporary mobile, a watch, food etc. Picked up $1000 of Nissan parts and ripped a massive burnout in the Camaro before I left (was outside a car dealership for style points), and still came home with a shitload of change.

 

The high-end accomodation, meals at expensive restaurants and shopping tend to criple the wallet over there.

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lol don't get me wrong you can live a lot cheaper then what I was saying, that's just what we allowed, we certainly didn't spend that every day on food.

 

food there is dirt cheap. like so cheap. unless you goto expensive restraint.

 

eat at danny's (my mate loves it) I eat very clean and healthy, so eating greasy food was a big struggle for us daily.

 

I got a mate who will do a week or 2 in vegas for 5k return to Townsville.

 

if your smart you can save a lot of money, and it certainly doesn't cost as much as what I put up!

just saying ya know :) its what we allowed - keep in mind we didn't spend what we allowed for food and accom.

 

check out www.expedia.com www.hotels.com www.hotelclub.com

they all have good rates and deals. sign up for newletters and save like 10-30% off hotel cost sales they have on, and book before you go.

 

but keep in mind what we spend, was including f**king everything, for 6 weeks, for me and the mrs.

we went over with 4 empty suitcases! 1 medium size inside a large size lol.

and we filed the wardrobe with new clothes.

 

each to your own but we certainly lived lavishly!

 

as said, 5k is a lot of money for a week in the LA (or surrounds)

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5k is alot of money anywhere if your not buying Grade-A on the daily for a week.

 

I was expecting it would be about $5k for 2weeks if your not spending like crazy?

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5k is alot of money anywhere if your not buying Grade-A on the daily for a week.

 

I was expecting it would be about $5k for 2weeks if your not spending like crazy?

 

Yeah I was there for 4 weeks. What nonac said about the food is quite right - it tends to be very rich and greasy, which doesn't sit well for me. If you're selective about your food, there's enough asian and italian restaurants and takeaway to eat reasonable food, not to mention you can just make sandwiches and stuff like a normal person. Go into a Walgreens or whatever and buy your groceries, in the hotel fridge and off you go.

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I ate at Cheesecake Factory wherever i could while i was in the USA.

 

Their cheesecakes are unremarkable but the quality of their food is better than anything i can find in Australia and it was consistently good every time i went there.

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I'm finally doing some travel and I really liked the input of some NS peeps last time I asked about the US, so I thought I'd ask for help again, just on flights and places to go.

 

So I'm going to Clevelend (Ohio) between the 27th and 31st of July and I'm thinking I should stay in the US for a month if I'm going to the trouble of getting there. FYI I'm going to this camp, my favourite 2 drummers are teaching so this is pretty huge for me.

 

I have some family in Cleveland, Pittsburgh and also a cousin in Utah (Salt lake city), not yet sure if I can stay with them, the one in Utah is the only one I really know.

 

Anyway I heard you can get cheaper flights if you buy them from America, and I also heard it's much cheaper to fly from state to state once you're there, so that opens up a whole range of possibilities if it's true. True?

 

From Cleveland, Niagra falls is 3 hours away, NYC is apparently 8 hours away. A flight to Cleveland makes a stop in LA, I wonder if I should go to LA a few days before I'm supposed to be in Cleveland, and just get a flight from there.

 

I was thinking a few days in LA (what do I do there?), fly up to Cleveland, do my 4 days there, then maybe a hire a car or catch a bus/train to Niagra and then NYC? What you guys think? Any attractions you could recommend?

 

I didn't plan this too far in advance so I'm having to sell some shit to make ends meet, so obviously I can't go big budget.

 

I realize this is pretty random but any help is good.

 

hey there...!

 

if you are planning to go for a holiday or sumthn then i would suggest to go through this link http://www.cuponation.com.au/expedia-coupon which will help you save while planning your trip and its damn useful... personal experience bro...! :)

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Got a rough idea what to do now... booked a flight today.

 

Flying to LA then making my way to Las Vegas (might see the grand canyon), then up to Salt Lake City where my cousin lives. I've got about 10 days to do that and I think I'll try hire a cool v8 or something and drive that distance.

 

Then it's over to cleveland for the 4 day camp and after that I can meet family around that area, and go to NYC and Boston with the rest of the trip. The flight back to Sydny stops at San Francisco so I figured I'll spend 2 days there and fly home.

 

Will be on my own except for when I visit family so I'll prob have a go at the bar scene, bust some moves :lol:

 

Cheers heaps for the tips!

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One tip - book your car ahead, a lot of stuff gets booked out really quick, especially any two door muscle car. The V8 versions book out even faster and most normal rental places dont have any in the fleet to begin with, they just stick with tourist spec base models

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Thanks man. I'll book one then. Any suggestions on a service? And best car to hire? I was thinking a corvette or mustang if possible.

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Plan for minimal time in LA. My least favorite city in the states and I really like the US. Have a look around tho... make up your own mind. Manhattan beach is nice to visit in LA? Haven't been to Las Vegas yet.

 

NYC and surrounds is a good idea. Plenty of things to keep you busy around there even if you're not into clubs/ pubs etc. You could probably kill most of your spare time in NYC and be happy. Loads of museums, art galleries, shows, sports, food tourism. Comedy shows and live music shows (jazz clubs) are great there. Boston and Washington DC are great too and give you a good impression of the states. Chicago is a good shout too.

 

San Fran is a good idea for a few days too.

 

Enjoy!

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Thanks man. I'll book one then. Any suggestions on a service? And best car to hire? I was thinking a corvette or mustang if possible.

 

my work mate hired a dodge challenger, he loved it, and the v8 of course!

 

and if it hasnt been covered yet already the normal tip is in the vicinity of 15-20% - 20 if great, 15 if average service.

 

and if you come across a dumb f**k indian cabbie who no spook engrish ok, you give them money for the ride and tell them to keep the change for a tip and they hand it back, just keep it and watch how angry they get haha, stupid f**ks cant understand da engrish. i didnt feel bad for him, not considering both me and the mrs told him to keep the change as a tip.

 

also, i dont know about usa its self, but in hawaii, some cabs operate on cash or card only. it can be a bit of a situation of you no have cash!

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Thanks man. I'll book one then. Any suggestions on a service? And best car to hire? I was thinking a corvette or mustang if possible.

 

They have all the usual Hertz, Budget, Avis etc. I have used Fox and Enterprise in the past they tend to be a bit cheaper and will have cars that are booked out elsewhere. If you get a Mustang convertible, you become a very obvious tourist. Corvettes are harder to find and are a lot more costly, so your best bet is Mustang coupe, Dodge Challenger, or a Chevy Camaro. I drove a Camaro from Vegas to San Fran and it was awesome, loved every minute.

 

Make sure to pay careful attention to your insurance options as crashing in Murica can be very expensive, especially if someone gets hurt...

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Okay thanks. Oh, someone has told me I need an international license, they got theirs from the NRMA apparently but the travel agent didn't mention anything about it so I wasn't sure if I needed it?

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I never bothered with an international licence, neither did any of my friends and family who have been there and driven. Even the people at rental places dont say anything, so its pretty safe to say that you dont need it

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PCH = Pacific Coast Hwy. The triangle from SF - LA - Vegas takes in the Grand Canyon as a side trip between Vegas and SF. PCH SF to LA is a brilliant drive, take 2 days if you can just for that bit.

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Got back 2 days ago... had an awesome time overall.

 

I'll try sum up each place in a few words:

 

LA - pretty shit, downtown is full of homeless, makes me wanna neck myself... hollywood wasn't really that exciting to me. I didn't get to the coast, just wanted to get out of there. Actually wondered why I'd even gone overseas. Got a bus to vegas. Met a cool chick at the stop and so I had someone to chat to the whole way there, felt better.

 

Las vegas - amazing place but they charge you through the nose every step of the way unless you know where to look, don't wait 'till the last minute to book your hotel or you'll get screwed. Even printing my bus ticket out of there was $5 lol. Casino royale is the only place you don't pay a $5 withdrawal fee at the atm. I didn't gamble, only drank 1 night that I was there. There are heaps of free things to see (even just walk around looking at the different hotels and casinos), might as well see the grand canyon while you're there. Ppl on my bus tour to the canyon got off and had a 20 min helicopter ride through the canyon and they all said it was the best thing they'd ever done... I should have done that, didn't really cost much more. Don't stay on Freemont street to save $$$ it's a ghetto and it's about an hour away by bus. Expedia staff are a nightmare to deal with, I dunno maybe 'cos they're all spanish they just don't get the Aussie accent and it's like pulling teeth. Use vegas.com instead.

 

Caught a bus to Utah stayed with my cousin - utah is sick, really green and big rocky mountains that are just awesome to look at. We stayed in park city and deer valley and didn't do much but it was just pretty.

 

Flew to Cleveland, Ohio - had the drum camp, was pretty awesome, went down south to stay with family for a night.. they were loaded had this big mansion with it's own lake... they gave me $300 when I left, yew. I didn't make it to the city unfortunately.

 

PA - New kensington - staying with family, it was such a shithole it was a bit intriguing... it was a steel down that died in the arse and all that's left are mostly unemployed, druggy or old folk, apart from the lucky few who can still run a business. You can buy a home there for $40,000.

 

Pittsburgh - awesome little CBD, only got to spend a few hours there... hard rock cafe had this fountain that shot water up in time with the 80's glam rock, was trippy.

 

Erie, PA - quiet little town by a massive lake, probably not much to do but really nice

 

Niagara falls - cool to see the falls - super touristy, the little city they've built next to the falls is really bright and exciting, good for a day. Got bed bugs from the seedy indian hotel. Expedia gave me a $50 coupon for my troubles... manager apparently didn't take responsibility.

 

Toronto - cool city, everything's clean, no obese americans in sight, hardly any homeless, canadians just seem to have their heads screwed on.

 

Boston - one of my faves - old city, heaps of green parks, not too hectic. I 'settled' for a hostel which ended up being my best mistake of the whole trip. I regret staying in hotels because you don't meet anyone, hoSTels are the bomb. I pulled some moves on a bunch of girls, the aussie accent works a treat... scored with one of them... also met an aussie dude in the lobby (no I didn't score with him lol), went out for some beers with a pom and a mexican. Went to visit MIT and Harvard - MIT wasn't really worth looking at. Got another pomme chicks details at breakfast on my last day after she told me she was goin to NY same day as me.

 

NYC - stayed with fam the first few days - then to the hostel - amazing city... but we've all seen it in movies so often it feels familiar. CBF waiting 2 hours to get to the top of the empire state building. Saw snarky puppy play. 911 museum made me pretty upset, then kinda angry that they've turned the tragedy into this big money making scheme where everyone goes and feels horrible. Ferry to staton island takes you past the statue of liberty but it's still a bit far away, oh well at least it's free. Bought a stupid hat from the goorin bros store. 99c pizza slices, but then I picked up a croissant and an OJ at a deli and they charged me $15, watch out.

 

San fran - homelessness to the max - the streets smell like piss. But the streets are hilly steps and you can picture 70's car chase scenes. The bridge is okay, fair few young ppl, I caught a bug from the pomme chick I was hanging out with in NY so I didn't have much energy... nearly fell asleep waiting for my bus in the hotel lobby.. indian owners again - told me not to fall asleep, *milkshakes*. No offense to any indians reading this lol

 

Travelling alone was hard and lonely at times but it pushed me to make an effort and by the end of the trip I was meeting strangers, scoring chicks numbers/facebook and catching up with them. The Aussie accent is a real asset, people take interest in you. And staying with family I really appreciated the company. Was ready to come home at the end of the month but I feel like I've changed a little bit and I'm already thinking about more travel.

 

Here's a view of the rock from some famous wharf, and that's my silly hat.

 

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The lasting impression I have of the states is that they make way more effort to be polite, Australians are shitty at times, not willing to say hi, got scowls on their faces. America is full of problems and homeless ppl but even they tell you to have a nice day as you walk past them.

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America is full of problems and homeless ppl but even they tell you to have a nice day as you walk past them.

 

we found this. i have to agree ! even the homeless are polite.

 

sounds like a wicked trip you had there bro! a real eye opener LA was hey..

 

get dropped off at the sydney airport hotel, after 6 weeks 3 full and heavy bags each, and no *milkshake* gives 2 f**ks about ya. they just watch you struggle.

what i would have given to give some lad $20 to take the bags and be so greatful cuz they are used to 3$ tips.

 

we spent 6 weeks there on honey moon, but ours was 2 years in the making, so we had everything paid sorted and booked beffore we left, so didnt experience any problems.

i had used expedia, hotel club, hotels.com, viator.

and to be honest they were all good. got what you paid for. pretty easy to do, but i had researched everything we wanted to do..

 

cant wait for our next trip overseas!

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LA - pretty shit, downtown is full of homeless, makes me wanna neck myself... hollywood wasn't really that exciting to me. I didn't get to the coast, just wanted to get out of there. Actually wondered why I'd even gone overseas. Got a bus to vegas. Met a cool chick at the stop and so I had someone to chat to the whole way there, felt better.

 

You really need to know someone local to enjoy LA imo. It can also save you from getting yourself killed lol... sadly I'm not lying in saying that.

 

Sydney and London are full of homeless too... nothing really shocked me. Vegas was cool, but small. The canyon is awesome, isn't it.

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